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 Post subject: Re: T23 ballast setup
PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:35 pm 
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prormk163 wrote:
Let us know how you like the WM 825's, they were not available when I got my 1100's and was wondering how they designed the bags specifically to fit the 2016 rear lockers.


Yall, I'm sorry I went out today and forgot again to get a picture. I just get so excited to get my board on I forget, haha. So the bags are really perfectly fit. They have a little leg that sticks out in the front the goes between the rear compartment and the rear corner seat in the cabin. When you lift up the rear corner seat you see the Plug and Play fill line, the front leg of the bag goes to there. It fills that whole lower area for about 10 inches then expands upward and takes up the entirety of the rear compartment. It extends back exactly to the rear fill line. The rear compartment is obviously flat on the engine panel side, but it starts narrow and goes up and outwards to the top. These bags are designed narrower at the bottom and wider at the top to fit the compartment perfectly, and flat on the engine panel side.

They leave about 8-10 inches at the top for ropes, life jackets etc. You really don't need these bags full up for wakeboarding unless you're running lead + a bow bag on top of the seats or you'll never get this thing on plane. The wake is gargantuan at that point. Unless your working on your PWT run, you'll be fine with the bags even half full, and the wake is still huge.

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 Post subject: Re: T23 ballast setup
PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:51 pm 
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80AMT23...

Do you think 2315 is the way to go for a prop? We have identical set ups!

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 Post subject: Re: T23 ballast setup
PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:34 pm 
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Nickleej wrote:
80AMT23...

Do you think 2315 is the way to go for a prop? We have identical set ups!


I can't see how the 2315 would be that much lower in RPM vs my 2419. I have friend with a 2016 A22 with the 350 motor, 800 rears, and 400 horseshoe bag in the bow + stock tanks + wedge, that just switched to the 2773 and he gets up on plane faster than me, and his RPMs were about 800-900 lower than mine. I should be switched into that prop by next week and I'll test and let people know.

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 Post subject: Re: T23 ballast setup
PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:56 pm 
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His A22 is smaller than the T23. The more bow weight you add to the T23, the less RPM's you will pull. It's crazy how another 250lb person standing @ the wind dam will drop my RPM's by 200-300 just by moving 1 person while surfing.

I'll still recommend the 2313 or 2315 to a 350 T23 owner.

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 Post subject: Re: T23 ballast setup
PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:31 am 
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Boostedsled wrote:
His A22 is smaller than the T23. The more bow weight you add to the T23, the less RPM's you will pull. It's crazy how another 250lb person standing @ the wind dam will drop my RPM's by 200-300 just by moving 1 person while surfing.

I'll still recommend the 2313 or 2315 to a 350 T23 owner.


You think his being just 200lbs lighter makes his RPMs run that much lower? I wouldn't think it'd be that much? With mine, I'd think that much more boat in front of the transmission would help lower RPM.

I put a 650lb bag on top of the seats and the rears mostly full and was pulling 46-4700 RPM at 22MPH. If you're running the 2313, what are your RPMs? I know you're at elevation so that might make a little difference. I'm at 300ft.

Edit: Just saw you don't wakeboard. If you go out before next week can you check your RPM weighted at 22-23MPH and see what you're at. Would be nice to compare.

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 Post subject: Re: T23 ballast setup
PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 12:45 am 
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I wouldn't recommend a 2313 if you board with my weight and elevation. I cannot get on plane with my weight. 12mph is top speed.

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 Post subject: Re: T23 ballast setup
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:57 pm 
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Good call Boostedsled, with my A22, 825lb. wakemakers in the rears, 750 lb. bow sac under the seat, only 4 people in the boat including me and stock ballast full with an Acme 2313 prop, I cannot get on plane. It works for surfing but wouldn't for wakeboarding. It surfs pretty good but I too need more bow weight to lengthen the wave, was hoping to keep all the ballast hidden but I do have an extra 400lb bag I will try on top of the bow seats to see what it will do.

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 Post subject: Re: T23 ballast setup
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:44 am 
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A22man wrote:
Good call Boostedsled, with my A22, 825lb. wakemakers in the rears, 750 lb. bow sac under the seat, only 4 people in the boat including me and stock ballast full with an Acme 2313 prop, I cannot get on plane. It works for surfing but wouldn't for wakeboarding. It surfs pretty good but I too need more bow weight to lengthen the wave, was hoping to keep all the ballast hidden but I do have an extra 400lb bag I will try on top of the bow seats to see what it will do.


What elevation are you at?

I have a friend with the same boat, same ballast setup, and he can get on plane fine with the 2773 which is a less aggressive prop, but we're at like 300ft elevation.

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 Post subject: Re: T23 ballast setup
PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:00 pm 
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Sorry for the late reply 80AMT23, we're at 2247 feet for elevation, I guess that is quite a bit higher than 300 feet. I'd really like to try a different prop, I just have no idea which one to buy, too bad they're so much money.

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 Post subject: Re: T23 ballast setup
PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 7:08 pm 
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A22man wrote:
Sorry for the late reply 80AMT23, we're at 2247 feet for elevation, I guess that is quite a bit higher than 300 feet. I'd really like to try a different prop, I just have no idea which one to buy, too bad they're so much money.


I just added the Acme 2315 and have had great luck with it



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