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 Post subject: Going to Surf Expo what do I need to look at?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:55 am 
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What are you guys looking for these days?

Highend wake?
Entry level wake?
Highend wakesurf?

We have been cutting out pro wakeboards and bindings over the years and the trend is still going. Most of the dealers in my personal network are just not buying anything at the pro level and if they are they might be buying just a few of each item. The market for pro wake gear is just dead. I am shocked that the Archer group can still crank out all this pro gear that is going unsold by the dealers.


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 Post subject: Re: Going to Surf Expo what do I need to look at?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:36 am 
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The "need" for pro level wakeboard gear is dead at the moment. I bet about .5% of wakeboarders need anything above a beginner to intermediate board. Bindings though I believe are hit and miss. Some expensive bindings are very comfortable while some are not so everyone's feet shape and level of comfort is different. I think if someone buys a new top level wakeboard setup every year and all they are doing is wake to wake grabs and just a 180...they are wasting $$$ because a new board isnt helping you progress. I've never blamed my 2011 Slingshot for my inabilities lol. Wakesurf is here to stay a while. You have P5 boards which are the industry standard. I think Victoria (another industry leader) is worth looking at due to a slightly less price point and they have the old school Debut and Grom models that can be had for cheap that someone at the shop getting a new boat can snag up easy. Just my thoughts.

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 Post subject: Re: Going to Surf Expo what do I need to look at?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 1:05 pm 
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Big boy specific surf boards. Looking to buy one, as you have noticed. Just leery of buying without a demo.


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 Post subject: Re: Going to Surf Expo what do I need to look at?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 3:37 pm 
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ndahlberg12 wrote:
Big boy specific surf boards. Looking to buy one, as you have noticed. Just leery of buying without a demo.


I agree.. Post up some pics of Inlands new boards for us :) Maybe a group buy??

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 Post subject: Re: Going to Surf Expo what do I need to look at?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 4:14 pm 
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Inland will not allow dealers to post up a group buy for the 2016 products online. I will accept some PM messages before I place the order to see what everyone is interested in. Not sure what discount levels inland will have for 2016.


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 Post subject: Re: Going to Surf Expo what do I need to look at?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:31 pm 
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Inland will not allow dealers to post up a group buy for the 2016 products online. I will accept some PM messages before I place the order to see what everyone is interested in. Not sure what discount levels inland will have for 2016.


sounds good.

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 Post subject: Re: Going to Surf Expo what do I need to look at?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:13 pm 
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I 2nd the "big boy surf boards." 6'10" 285lbs here :)


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 Post subject: Re: Going to Surf Expo what do I need to look at?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:02 pm 
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billy06evoix wrote:
I 2nd the "big boy surf boards." 6'10" 285lbs here :)


I'm 6' 6" 300.

I keep hearing phase 5 will have the best "big guy" line up. Very excited to see what they have. I don't know much about inland.


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 Post subject: Re: Going to Surf Expo what do I need to look at?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:45 pm 
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ndahlberg12 wrote:
billy06evoix wrote:
I 2nd the "big boy surf boards." 6'10" 285lbs here :)


I'm 6' 6" 300.

I keep hearing phase 5 will have the best "big guy" line up. Very excited to see what they have. I don't know much about inland.

Imo they are going to have to step up and build a much thicker board if us 300lb guys ever want to enjoy riding them. I hope they do something as it's always good to have multiple companies competing for our business :)

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 Post subject: Re: Going to Surf Expo what do I need to look at?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:17 pm 
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admin wrote:
What are you guys looking for these days?

Highend wake?
Entry level wake?
Highend wakesurf?

We have been cutting out pro wakeboards and bindings over the years and the trend is still going. Most of the dealers in my personal network are just not buying anything at the pro level and if they are they might be buying just a few of each item. The market for pro wake gear is just dead. I am shocked that the Archer group can still crank out all this pro gear that is going unsold by the dealers.


High end Wakesurf
Mid level Wakesurf
Surf accessories (fins, bags, wax, repair kits)
More boards...
Wake bindings (just bought a set of Remix 4-8 from you for my son)
Wake Helmets

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