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 Post subject: Re: 2014 PnP rear drain install for Sumo 750 & 900
PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:29 pm 
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Is this fix specifically because yall are using sumo bags? I have the fly-high 600s (I think) and I'm considering upgrading to something larger because I can't seem to get a long enough surf wave and good push with my current set up. Just wondering if this is something I will end needing to do if I upgrade. Haven't had an issue with my drains popping off of the fly-highs yet or at least that I know of...
I imagine the entire rear storage area fills with water when they come loose?


I am running fly high 1100 sacs and while I only had the fitting pop off once my main issue was the drain lines kinking. I would pull one of your bags up and inspect it to see how the lines looks.

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 Post subject: Re: 2014 PnP rear drain install for Sumo 750 & 900
PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:30 pm 
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as1430 wrote:
Is this fix specifically because yall are using sumo bags? I have the fly-high 600s (I think) and I'm considering upgrading to something larger because I can't seem to get a long enough surf wave and good push with my current set up. Just wondering if this is something I will end needing to do if I upgrade. Haven't had an issue with my drains popping off of the fly-highs yet or at least that I know of...
I imagine the entire rear storage area fills with water when they come loose?


If you have a '14 then you definitely need larger than 600s for the rear. I suggest the Fly High 1100s or the Sumo 900s. I run the sumo 900s full, wedge down, stock full, arrow sack full, and 400lbs in the bow with 4 ppl in the boat. The bow weight is very important for making the regular side wave look great. I also suggest adding extra people on the surf side just to help clean it up.


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 PnP rear drain install for Sumo 750 & 900
PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:35 pm 
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I am running ronix 800s. Flyhighs will have the same problem as all the others. Maybe the 600s don't but anything bigger probably will. As1430 you need more weight

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 Post subject: Re: 2014 PnP rear drain install for Sumo 750 & 900
PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:49 pm 
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idahosurf wrote:
I am running ronix 800s. Flyhighs will have the same problem as all the others. Maybe the 600s don't but anything bigger probably will. As1430 you need more weight


He is talking about the fittings popping and not the dividers. If you upgrade bags, you will need to reinforce the dividers. Sumo bags have been the only bag that pops fittings. The rest are fine. I personally would go all fly high just to avoid any pontential head aches of bad bags....even though the issue has been fixed for over a year now.


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 PnP rear drain install for Sumo 750 & 900
PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:09 pm 
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dezul wrote:
idahosurf wrote:
I am running ronix 800s. Flyhighs will have the same problem as all the others. Maybe the 600s don't but anything bigger probably will. As1430 you need more weight


He is talking about the fittings popping and not the dividers. If you upgrade bags, you will need to reinforce the dividers. Sumo bags have been the only bag that pops fittings. The rest are fine. I personally would go all fly high just to avoid any pontential head aches of bad bags....even though the issue has been fixed for over a year now.


I was talking about the fittings, not the dividers. My ronix bags were putting so much pressure on the bottom drain fitting that they were popping out. I moved my lines to allow the bags to fill close to full and keep the back drain fitting from kinking. My dealer is having problems with the fly high bags kinking the drain and pulling the fitting out.

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 Post subject: Re: 2014 PnP rear drain install for Sumo 750 & 900
PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:31 pm 
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Thanks for the feedback. Had the 2014 out this weekend and snapped some photos of the rear bags pretty much full. Do yalls hoses look pinched like mine? I can only imagine that 900 or 1100 kinking would be far worse. The pump on the port side is mounted perpendicular to the hull whereas the pump on the starboard side is mounted parallel to the hull (see pics)- is this normal?
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 Post subject: Re: 2014 PnP rear drain install for Sumo 750 & 900
PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 1:03 pm 
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Take the straps off that hose and allow it to just sit loosely in the locker. Kink problem solved. Those handles are not the pumps. They are a shut off valve for your plug and play.

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 Post subject: Re: 2014 PnP rear drain install for Sumo 750 & 900
PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:12 pm 
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Thanks Idahosurf! Any chance you know where the ballast pumps are located on a '14 A22? My bags came with the boat and I have yet to take them out and explore...


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 PnP rear drain install for Sumo 750 & 900
PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:51 am 
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Just trace your fill lines and you'll find you fill pumps

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 Post subject: Re: 2014 PnP rear drain install for Sumo 750 & 900
PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:53 am 
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as1430 wrote:
Thanks Idahosurf! Any chance you know where the ballast pumps are located on a '14 A22? My bags came with the boat and I have yet to take them out and explore...


They are under the rear seat on my a24...

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