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 Post subject: Re: 2015 A22 Ballast Bag install help needed
PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:21 pm 
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Thanks for the info and pictures!

I took apart the 3 hoses/Y in the bow the other night, now I know what each one is....and to clarify the ONLY hose on the bow bag that is going to a port on the TOP of the bag is for the vent? And it will require a 90* elbow for this? The fill/drain should be connected w/ a STRAIGHT connector to the ports on the SIDE of the bags, right?

Sorry for the silly questions, this is my first rodeo. I also didn't get enough connectors with the bags when I ordered it so it's slowing my process but I ordered 6 more 90* elbows so hopefully I'll be able to finish up the install as well as install vents on the REAR bags and T into the existing hard tank vents.

Why did Axis give me a vent line for the bow bag but not the rear bags?

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 A22 Ballast Bag install help needed
PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:02 am 
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ThatGuy wrote:
Why did Axis give me a vent line for the bow bag but not the rear bags?


Because the rear bags drain into the hard tanks and can (or are supposed to) vent through this connection.
The front bag has a separate drain pump and no connection to the center hard tank.

I removed the vent hoses from my rear hard tanks and put the hoses on the bags. Works much better that way because the air is always on top of the water and can now exit the system at the highest point which is the top of the bag.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 A22 Ballast Bag install help needed
PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:40 am 
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That Guy depending how you trim the lines all three will have an elbow fitting. The only fitting that you can make work with a strait fitting will be the bottom port on the starboard (drivers) side.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 A22 Ballast Bag install help needed
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:03 pm 
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StevenM wrote:
That Guy..



The hose with the check valve is your fill and needs to be ran to the Port side ballast fitting on your bag. The other hose coming out of the wall near the driver will go to the Starboard side ballast fitting. This leaves one hose that should be running to a vent fitting on the hull of the boat. This will connect to the top fitting on the bag.




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What keeps the bag from draining since the bag's water level will be above the drain port? Is a check valve needed on the drain line?


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 A22 Ballast Bag install help needed
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:31 am 
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Figured I'd update this thread. First off, many thanks to everyone's input. I probably spent way too many hours but I'm basically done at this point, it's ready to go and I plan to try it out first time tomorrow but I need 1 more straight fitting to make it how I planned/to my liking.

I ended up doing the rear lines exactly how you described except I didn't have enough height with just the (2) 90*'s to hook up the bag due to the large ring at the port hitting the floor panel so I put the straight connector that was originally on the rear line facing up in between the (2) 90* connectors and it raised it up ever so slightly but enough to where it easily allows the bag to slide in and connect.

Thankfully the other 2 lines, fill and front drain were long enough/had the right connectors so I could just hook them up.

For the bow bag I had a VERY long vent hose and way too short of a fill line so I ended up cutting 26" from the vent hose and replaced the fill line after the check valve with that piece and put a 90* connector on the end of that to the portside rear corner of the bow bag. This left me with enough line on the vent hose to put a 90* connector on it and have it curl slightly to give it room to move when filling.

***This is where I'm slightly stuck at....the drain hose, or the starboard rear connection on the bow bag was also much longer than I needed I believe, and I cut about 12" off of it so that it basically comes out of the floor/carpet and has a straight connection to the bag. I want/think I need to cut it shorter than I did so the bag sits right but then the hose would only stick out like 2" from the hole in the carpet....does this seem right? I was scared to cut it any shorter than the 4-5" I left it at just incase I had to add line back to it because the bag layout changed when filled. I'll play with it Saturday when I take it out but wanted to ask here as well.

I read about people needed to ADD line to get all the connections right but I'm left with AT LEAST a few feet of line that I had to REMOVE to make the connections as best as I thought would work.....so I'm left scratching my head why boat was so different or if I did something wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 A22 Ballast Bag install help needed
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 1:37 pm 
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okay, I have a new T23 and have not modified the rear PnP yet.
I am at the lake and don't have much time this weekend so question...

If I only connect the more anterior drain and the fill on the rear bag so that the bag lays out nicely ...that will still work just drain slower since the second drain isn;t connected?

Then this week, when I get time I could go ahead and modify the most rear drain hose and connect it?

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 A22 Ballast Bag install help needed
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:19 pm 
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You don't NEED to make any modifications to the rear PNP if you don't want to, at least I didn't have to on my T22. However we have chosen to make the modification to the rear drain to get the bags further back. So you should be able to just hook up the bag and go for this weekend. The front PNP needs some connectors added because it's originally setup in a Y design.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 A22 Ballast Bag install help needed
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 5:12 pm 
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How many hours do you have on your T22?
Are you loading it up yet?
How many hours until you starting towing or using any wedge/ballast?
Hope its going well

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 A22 Ballast Bag install help needed
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 7:05 pm 
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Almost 12 hours now. Haven't run the bags yet, tomorrow should be the first time hopefully. We waited until almost 10 to run any weight/wedge/pull anyone. Like 9.8 hrs. lol. And I just installed the bags over the past week or so. Everything is gong great, no issues thankfully. Taking it in for service on Tuesday then we head to Norris for a week next Saturday.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 A22 Ballast Bag install help needed
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:10 pm 
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Sounds good.
Hopefully you have good weather at Norris.
We will probably be there as well. I think we may head down Friday afternoon

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