Axis Wakeboard Boat Forum

not sure there is much experience out there with the new crusader 350/new gear ratio. you will probably start hearing more the first part of next year.

The new 350 can probably get away with the 2315 prop due to new gear ratio as long as you're near sea level. If you're at elevation you'll probably need the 409 or better yet the 450. The "cinco" prop is a 5-blade prop and is probably more "snake oil" than benefits. I had it on my A22 and also used the 1235 on the same A22. The cinco has a couple benefits. It is a very quiet prop inside the cabin of the boat, the prop wash was smoother (less rooster tail and cleaner with less bubbles if that makes sense), and 200-300 less RPM than the 1235. Top speed the same as 1235 and pulled about the exact same as the 1235 (I thought it pulled less). The only annoying drawback that I experienced with the cinco was turning 180 degrees very sharp with cruise on at wakeboard speed the prop would cavitation just a tiny bit and resulting in the cruise over compensating and revving up the rpms some and practically slingshotting the wakeboarder. I never had this is with the 1235.

I have the cinco on my A20 and it's a great prop for all the reasons AJ mentioned, but I just wish it could handle a little more weight. Maybe some of it has to do with the A20 being shorter and adding more front weight doesn't necessarily help tip it (if that makes sense)? We always have an extra bag on top of the bow seats. Not trying to derail the thread, but what is the next best step up from the cinco? Sounds like the 1235 is very similar, so would it be the 2315? Curious for my next boat once mine sells.

1235, 2313, 2315, then 2419 as far as order of hole shot.

Looks great!

You think the new gear ration on the PCM 350 will be fine with the 2313 (torque prop) what my build sheet shows or do I need the 2315? Can I order the boat with the 2315 or 2419 (might be a dealer question)? Do I want more torque for surfing with 900's? I'm at sea level (Sacramento/Nor Cal).

It is torque and low end that is achieved by going with higher numbered props correct?

I would go 2315, the 2419 would be overkill with the new gearing. It's not the higher the number the more torque in props necessarily (although it appears to follow that in the props that work with Axis boats). Just depends on the HP vs gearing of the motor then figuring out what diameter, pitch ,and cup of the prop works best for your needs and elevation. 1235 is a 14.5x14.25 with .105 cup, 2315 15x12 .150 cup, 2315 15x12 .105 cup, and 2419 15x12 .075 cup

You wrote the 2315 twice I assume the 2313 is 15x12 .150 cup. I'll have to ask the dealer if I can order the boat with the 2315 prop. My build is not till Febuary so I can make changes for the next month or so. Also might hear what works the best for the T23 for props and ballast setups.

If the 2313 is listed as the torque prop then get it I suppose. Last year's gearing had the 2419 as the torque prop and it's a beast. There's already 2015 Malibu LSV's using the 2315 loaded up and I've seen a couple guys order 2015 LSV's with the 2419 which is way more aggressive than the 2313 and 2315

I wouldn't say "way". The only difference is the cup on the blades. Besides that, I agree with the rest.