Axis Wakeboard Boat Forum

That's sounds better

Yeah, that was me. When I tested the front bag, I came up with 625lbs. The test was far from perfect so could vary a bit, I did my best to account for some spillage. But in the end the number came out a lot lower than I expected.

Here's the old thread if you want to read:
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=863&p=6674&hilit=625#p6674

This is great to hear all your wedge less set ups. I always felt so alone, feeling like one of the only people that do not use it. My set up is very similar to both of yours. The wake is sick sick sick.

Only thing DTB, what elevation are you running at? Reason I ask is I have almost exact same set up as you and with my 2315 (supposed to be less hole shot than your 2313… i've been told) I get up with no problem, but I am only at 1400' elevation. I even can throw the sumo 800 floor sack down and with a rider in tow and 3 adults, it still gets up… it takes a bit, but it will do it.

Actually the 2315 has a better hole shot due to the more aggressive cup than the 2313. With that much weight, it may be the slight difference in planing.

I started going wedgeless because when you drop a couple of thousand pounds in the boat and the wedge it gives the wake a lip. That lip always seemed to be abrupt and throws me off. The rampy wake seemed more predictable.

I LOVE the wedge wake. Y'all are crazy.

I like it till the boat gets about 2000lbs of ballast in it. Then it gets too peaky for me.

^^^Agreed. Wedge is nice if you want to get a quick set in and aren't running the boat too heavy. I never really use the wedge anymore though. I like the nice, rampy transition that you get with full ballast as opposed to less ballast plus wedge. Remember, running extra weight up front can help mimic the firmness and lip you get with the wedge.

Johnny I'm in east Texas so elevation should not be a problem. It always planes out just seems to struggle more than I'd like.

You are correct, I got that switched around in my head somehow. I remember when the 2315 and 2313 came out and that was the discussion… apparently that is still the discussion. If I could get my hands on a 2313, I think I could do a same-day water test with all 3 of the 15" props (as I have access to a 2419 i think). That would be awesome.


Yeah, after 2500-3000 the wedge kills the lip of the wake, makes it thin and soft and can make it foamy. I know there are guys with some great wedged wakes with 3000+ lbs, I just do not know exactly how they do it, I am assuming they throw a bunch more weight in the bow….

Okay, well I think you have 2 options. 2315, or 2419. The 2419 is supposed to get you up the best. Might want to invest in that and put the 2313 into your spare prop box… that is, if you do not want to change your weight config or drain.