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 Post subject: 2015 A22 Ballast Bag install help needed
PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:34 am 
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Hello everyone,
I'm having a hard time figuring out how to hook up my Flyhigh sacs in the Bow and rear lockers. Very new to this and was hoping someone had some pictures of their own install to show me what hoses go where.

It seems like my hoses in the rear lockers are not long enough to reach the port on the sacs. My hose barely reaches the carpet panel where the fill lever is located.

In the Bow I see the drain hoses but there is only one hose at the very front of the Bow that is joined together with clamps. There is no Y connector. Just a straight connector connecting two hoses together in the front.

I guess if all else fails I will have my dealer install them but was hoping to save some money.

Any pictures of your setups would be greatly appreciated

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 A22 Ballast Bag install help needed
PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:44 am 
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i didn't have any issues with my rear bags, as all the hoses fit. they actually could use a little trimming to help the bag fill all the way without hoses bending. i believe there are 3 connections for each rear bag, 2 for drain and 1 for fill.

for the bow bag, the one hose at the very front needs to be separated and you need connectors to hook up to them to hook up to the front two ports on the bow bag. i was told one was a vent line and one was a fill line, but i'm not positive that's correct. they hook the two up so if you hit the front ballast switch without the bag, it doesn't fill the boat, instead just empties out of the boat. i did trim the two bow bag drain lines as much as a could so the bag fits better

hope that helps.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 A22 Ballast Bag install help needed
PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 4:38 pm 
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I posted this in the big mega thread but here you go.

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The rear bags are very easy to install but will require about 4 feet of additional hose than what Axis provides. You need about 2 feet per bag to do it with an easy install.


Tools needed:

Impact/screw gun/ screw driver with phillips bit
5/16 nut driver/socket
Hose/Pipe Cutter/ Razor Blade/Pocket Knife
Silicone
Black Tape/Heat Shrink

Setup:
We use Strait Line Sumo bags for our Axis boats. I like the 1" ports on the bags that match the 1" Hi-Flo ballast lines, I also like having the spring loaded "link valve" that works to burp all the air out. Go ahead and silicone the the threaded fittings into your bag ports and snug them up. For 2015 Axis was nice enough to include the rear quick lok fittings for the PnP upgrades but you still need two 90 degree elbows and two strait connectors for the front.


Rear Bags :

Starting with the Rear fittings at the Transom, go ahead and remove the two screws holding on the plate cover. Once that is off you can use the nut driver to remove the hoseclamp holding the hose to the hard tank port. (Sorry, I didnt have pictures of this step.) Axis uses a ton of silicone on the hose holding them on, I sugest cutting a slit on the hose to remove them. Once you have this hose off you are going to trim it down. You only need about 2.5"-3.5" of hose showing so it can mate to the bag.

Once trimmed, slide the hose back on the hard tank port and tighten down the hose clamp. A little bit of Babes Seat Soap on the inside of the hose makes this very easy. Then replace that cover.

Finished rear ports look like this.
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Now, you can make that line shorter, and to the point where the quick release is coming right out of the opening.. Its up to you to go shorter, just makes it a pain getting the fitting on and off. The other option you can do is notch a hole in the back of the cover. You would run your hose strait back, use a 90 degree fitting striate up, through the hole you notched and then to the bag. The advantage of htis is having the bag as far back as possible to keep the weight in the rear of the boat.


Onto the other end of the rear bags underneath the rear seats. Go ahead and use that impact and pull the screw off the hose cover again. Same thing as the rear, go ahead and loosen the hose clamp and pull of that hose. You will not be using this section so pull it off however you need. This is where you need that extra hose line I mentioned earlier. Take a 2 ft section and hose clamp one end back on the hard tank port. Because of how far up the bags sit you need the extra length of the hose to loop around and connect back to the bag without kinking.

Use a hose clamp to secure the strait quick lok fitting to the hose and use the black/electrical tape or heat shrink to cover the hose clamp.

Here is a pictures of the finished setup with the additional hose length.
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The Fill hose is tucked up in the wall in the rear compartment. They actually have you a big enough cutout this year that the hose wont pinch. Just pull it out of the wall and connect it to the bag.




The front bag:

Pull your seats out and lay the bag in the compartment. This one is easy enough to start at the rear drain hoses.

Just take your hose cutters and trim them up so you have a little bit of hose showing, and hose clamp your Strait Quick Loks to the hose. Tape over the hose clamp.

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The two 90 degree connections will be going into the two ports near the nose of the bag/boat. Reach up under the seat towards the nose of the boat and find the hose line. Careful and watch for fiberglass splinters.. the suck.

This hose line has a barb fitting, cut the hose on either side of this seam. Hose clamp a 90 degree fiting to each hose and connect to the bag ports. The one on the Port side is your fill line and has a Check valve installed on the hose. The starboard side hose is the vent and goes to the thru hull fitting.

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After that, head to the lake and enjoy your newly weighted boat.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 A22 Ballast Bag install help needed
PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:05 pm 
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hey 03dvldog, did you get it done?


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 A22 Ballast Bag install help needed
PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:50 am 
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carguy79ta wrote:
hey 03dvldog, did you get it done?


Not yet...I need to order more hose. My hoses in the rear are way to short.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 A22 Ballast Bag install help needed
PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:30 pm 
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Did you add a 90* quick connector to all 3 lines in the bow?

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 A22 Ballast Bag install help needed
PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:24 pm 
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ThatGuy , no. Only the fill/vent lines on top of the bag closest to the bow receive the 90* fittings. Last picture in my post.

The drain lines at the feet of the bags received strait connectors, the second to last picture in my post.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 A22 Ballast Bag install help needed
PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:00 pm 
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StevenM wrote:
ThatGuy , no. Only the fill/vent lines on top of the bag closest to the bow receive the 90* fittings. Last picture in my post.

The drain lines at the feet of the bags received strait connectors, the second to last picture in my post.


So if I'm understanding you right you have 4 lines in your bow? I only have 3 so maybe that's why I'm confused. Is a T22 different than an A22 for the PNP?

Did you add the vent maybe? I'm wondering if I have 1 fill, 1 drain, 1 vent, or if I have 1 fill and 2 drains.

Thanks for the help.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 A22 Ballast Bag install help needed
PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:23 pm 
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That Guy.. yes the T22/23 boats are different in the bow from the A22/24 and the A20 is seperate as well since that is still running the old arrow bag.

For the T series boats you should have 3 lines tied into eachother via a Y fitting. Unhook this unit and it is fairly simple to wire up.

The hose with the check valve is your fill and needs to be ran to the Port side ballast fitting on your bag. The other hose coming out of the wall near the driver will go to the Starboard side ballast fitting. This leaves one hose that should be running to a vent fitting on the hull of the boat. This will connect to the top fitting on the bag.

Im going to see if I have a picture, we just sold two of our T boats so I need to see if i have a picture on a computer somewhere.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 A22 Ballast Bag install help needed
PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:34 pm 
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Went and snapped a few pictures of a T22 we had in the showroom.

This is all three hoses hooked up to the Y fitting. The one im holding is the vent. The other two are the Fill/Drain.
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Here you can see the two hoses heading through the hole near the driver wall on the starboard side. One of these hoses as a check valve on it, that is your fill line. The other hose is your drain.
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