Axis Wakeboard Boat Forum

Hey guys I love my axis wake. With that being said tho, prices have gone up quite a bit since '11 when i bought mine. Mb has caught my eye for a new boat purchase. Any of you ever get out on any MB's to wakeboard and could compare the wakeboard wakes. From what I gather the surf wave will be much better on the mb but I primarily wakeboard 90% of the time. I'll either go left over 14 a24 with ls3 or a 15 f22 or b52 23 with raptor 400. For u guys who have ridden either, how the wakes stack up to your axis? Thanx

This thread has some good info.
http://axiswakeboardboats.com/viewtopic ... 2&start=10

14 A24 with LS3 and you won't be disappointed (I know as it is what I Have)

MB makes an awesome boat too. From what I understand the wakeboard wake on the MB is really good as long as your boarding at 22.5 plus mph. Washes out at lower speeds. DFTR on the MB forum boards a lot on the MB. I would reach out to him over there for specifics.

I've been in several 2014 MB's of my friends, both a 23 TWB and F21. MB interiors are better fit and finish than Axis and more options in patterns and definitely more fabric choices. Axis has bigger bow space for sure as well as deeper storage in the A24. Interior space...the 23 TWB interior is massive, as big as the A24 in my opinion or bigger due to MB having shorter bows and smaller sun pad. I like the ergonomics of the Axis dash better than MB due to MB dash is lower and hits my knees. Some of the dash controls and radio are lower than Axis (factory MB headunit sucks major ass as far as user friendly). Sitting position in MB's is more shallow due to all hard tank ballast so your knees will be bent more than A24. A24 wins in storage space and depth. MB has a huge bimini bigger than Axis. MB ballast fills in 1-1/2 to 2 min and drains about the same time. MB wake is big and firm but needs to be at or just below 22.5-23mph to stay clean in tge 23TWB. The F21 wake was clean down to 21mph and way more lippy than the 23TWB (night and day shape difference and I prefer verticle wakes). MB are true v-bottom boats so they will run great in rough chop but my A24 can run in 20-30mph wind lake chop at 20-25mph with no worries as long as you fill the how and get the Axis "v" part of the hull cutting into the chop (biggest mistake wakeboat drivers do in chop is leaving the bow ballast empty...fill it and your tough water ride is much better...common sense prevails). 23TWB surf wake is big with long pocket, more lip than Axis could dream of on MB's listed wake. F21 listed surf wake is clean, very lippy but smaller pocket. I have no experience with MB's new surf system. MB wakeboard wake is side to side sensitive due to being a true v-bottom. Gel coat fit and finish I'll give an edge to MB. MB's are VERY tall boats on a trailer but feel very shallow inside due to all hard tank ballast.

What AJ said is pretty much my experience as well. He is very knowledgeable, has had a couple different Axis'

My opinion is definitely go with with the A24, hands down, no discussion. IMO the A24 is the best malibu wake ever. I do like the MB F21/21TWB wake with a bow sack on the seats, it is steep, firm, and fun. The A24 is a lot more versatile though. The MB's have a real deep V which is great for choppy water. I never ride or drive in choppy water so that means nothing to me. The MB ballast is awesome in theory and use, but it has its faults as well. You cannot adjust wake by adding water if up on plane. In the Axis, you can fill or drain at speed or sitting. You can easily add sacks to the Axis, MB you must hand fill or add pumps. The Axis A24 wake is super clean no ballast at slow speeds, mellow, flat, easy to ride and learn, but if you fill her up and have rear sacks and the bow sack under the seats, drop the wedge, and you have a huge pro wake. I rode an A24 a day after I rode my friends G... The A24 wake is a little different but just as good, just as big, just as fun, and almost half the price. I love the A24 wake, more than my A22 wake.

I wakeboard 100% of the time, so the surf, I cannot help you with, but surf gate is really cool and fun. Not sure what MB does.

Interior fit n finish MB wins, their vinyl quality is a little bit better and you get a lot more choices. Driver helm is funny in the MB, the control screen for gauges and speed control are so far forward, you have to almost lean out of your seat to touch it. It is a poor design. The helm is really spread out, the throttle is way far away from driver seat compared to most other brands. If you are a short and wide person, this might be nice and feel good, except for the far away control touch screen. Like AJ said, the floor is high and the dash and steering wheel is low. The windshield is way too low, you will never need the bolster, unless surfing. Since you wakeboard most the time like me, your head is above the windshield (at least in the 2015 I just demo'd). The interior space is bigger in the MB, small sun pad, small bow, a lot of cabin space in the F21, and I can only imagine how much bigger it is in the F22 or 23 wide body. The handling as far as around the dock is okay, axis is better, the turning of the MB is poor, especially when loaded down and it is sensitive from side to side, so you have to watch the wake and make sure it stays clean. The Axis is solid, turns awesome, even when loaded down, not very side to side sensitive, wake is clean clean clean. The stereo in the MB was excellent. Had bluetooth and we hooked up immediately with no issues, exile system was installed and straight from the mb dealership the sound was great. May need some tuning if you are a music snob, but for me, I thought it was clean and loud, very very nice. MB is a bit cheaper now I think, for comparable boats, and I do not know for sure but the warranty may be better. I think resale on the Axis may be better, especially with the bigger motor and surf gate.

I would go drive and ride them. They really are complete opposites in almost every way, except that they both have great wakes and are excellent boats for the money. You can't go wrong either way, but a demo of both will make your decision easy, and clear, in my experience.

I agree with John on the A24 wakeboard wake...stupid big with weight. Clean down to 18mph all day. Can be shaped with or without wedge. Setting up the A24 wakeboard wake is dummy proof, so easy. True what John said about the Gravity fed ballast of MB. Once you're moving you can't add ballast, you can only let out water to adjust the wake. I love my A24 and like MB a lot. MB makes a great boat at a great price as well. MB has been around a while and started out back in the DD days as Ski Brendella (MB Sports actually stands for Mike Brendel...and hence the name "Brendella in "Ski Brendella"). Also, I can't recall MB having a hidden cooler like Axis does.

Imo they ate both great boats with two distinctly different wakes. With that said you get WAY MORE FOR YOUR MONEY with an MB. I've had two of each and had ZERO problem with boats and enjoyed the benefits and strengths of both. However Malibu/Axis have not held true to the roots of Axis(although we keep buying them) and kept them affordable. It would really boil down to your dealer at this point I think. Feel free to message me if you have any details you need.

Thanx guys, so all of the left over 14's I've called on with the 450 are sold. Bummer!. Here's my next question, is the '15 350 with the new gear ratio enough motor for a fully weighted out a24? I know for sure the '14 350 is not enough. A '15 a24 with upgrade ls3 is crazy priced

I've got a demo set up for an f22 next week. No need to demo the a24, I know the wake will b solid

I've been in a '15 A24 with the 350 and it didn't struggle at all. I assume it had the 2313 torque prop but don't know for sure. The rear lockers had 750s and we had the wedge down. There were only 5 adults in the boat though, so not sure what the breaking point is when you start adding larger rear bags, extra passengers, and more ballast on top of plug n play.