Granted it was only one thread but all those guys did was bash the T22 and axis in general for being cheap, do they not know it's the same company. While Malibu's are some of the best boats out there. I would not trade my T22 for any Malibu without surf gates. And some of us don't need a computer to fill a ballast tank. Are axis cheaper yeah we all know that, my 2014 was 25k less than a 2130 Malibu a 2014 even more. Is the Malibu better yes but 25k better maybe, but not to me. I think my Axis outperforms 90% of the wake board boats out there.