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He is in Powell..."In the mean time I am off to Lake Powell on Wed and am excited to see what dropping a few thousand feet does to "Wake Up" my 409. Just wanted to share with the group......"

Having a ls3, being overpowered is something I take for granted now. Heck, I threw my buddies 2315 prop on, normally run a 1235, and had 5k of ballast, with wedge, and 6 people in the boat, planed out to 24mph in just under 18 seconds. That is at sea level though. I've only ran that weight with wedge once, but I was smiling the whole time, plenty of power but drank the fuel like there was no tomorrow.

haha yeah man haul that up to tahoe and you'll feel like a eunich

Back from Powell - I will update on the perf bit separately. The prop is a reworked (twice now) OJ 985. it is a step up from their 945 that you hear a few guys here talking about in other posts and comparing to the ACME 2419. It is a 15 x 12.5 and currently their biggest Tractor Tug prop that will work on my boat. In speaking with Eric Johnson at OJ how they cut their props makes their 12.5 much more like an ACME 12 or even 11.5 though so those numbers are going to be only for reference. It went back to them 2x's to try and take some Cup out to get my boat up to that 3800 RPM mark when I am at 13 MPH (where I keep hitting "the wall" and it wont roll over to plane out). The rework is letting the prop slip a bit and spool up higher and it did help me get full ballast weight moving to be able Surf it at 11.2 MPH up here. Previously with my ACME 2419 and the OJ before the rework I would max out at 10.4 MPH with full 750's so that part is great. I do not have exact specs on where this thing lands after the rework though as our conversations have been about getting the RPM up. The first time out it went from 3400-3500 RPM at "the Wall" to 3650. The second time landed us in that 3750-3800 RPM range and when the motor hit the sweet spot my MPH jumped up a touch helping my surfing speed when loaded down. (Please if you are new to this thread go back and read the whole thing before we run down the "Put more weight in the front" conversation).

I am aware that ACME now has a 15 x 11 and even 15 x 10 that I have not tried but I think that would be fruitless given that a little prop change is not going to get me what a 450 (HP or Torque - whatever number that figure designates) and taller trans could not. So that seems silly to spend money on running down that road.

Powell Update - Bottom line makes me envious of you guys that live lower. The boat had a good bit more "Grunt" on the low end. could surf fully weighted down with people all over the boat (not having to pile everyone toward the front like I do here) and really work on tweaking the wave for height and length. It would allow us to move more weight to wakeboard speed as well (but still no dice anywhere near fully loaded)

With about 700LB of people ballast and my 200LB of Lead up front I could get 1/2 full 750's to get to wakeboard speed with wedge after quite a bit of time (wake was better than I have ever been able to get it up here in Denver however but that could also be due to the miles and miles of glass water that we were getting in the AM - wish I would have taken some pics/video).

It gained about 2.5MPH on the top end and handled like a Corvette blasting through some of the canyons. Something that I have never really played around with (the carving capability of this hull) given that my lake is kinda the counter clockwise merry-go-round lake that many around here in CO are.

Even If I could have done it with this set up though it still does not get me out of the constant ridicule and teasing of my buddies who love to give me Sh*t for making all of them go rub elbows in the bow while the back section, and all of those comfortable seats sit empty while trying to experiment and dial it in. Throw some beers in them and this made my $70K investment a great thing to tease me about incessantly while they tried to keep from rubbing shoulders in the front. They suggested that I name the boat OFF LIMITS as when they want to wakeboard the best wake 3/4 of my boat is now OFF LIMITS to sit it so all the weight can be forward. Thanks AXIS for that one......

But we did have a great time and Powell is one of the most spectacular places on earth. If you have not been there put it on your bucket list! The other thing I will give the boat credit for is it's ability to take and smooth out chop. If you have been to powell you know that the main channel water can get pretty big and this little 22 smoothed it out pretty well. Ride comfort was great compared to many other wake boats I have been in at powell.

Look forward to getting out on a T23 and see if that changes anything for me. Not that I want to replace mine as I do love my boat!

Cheers and I will update as I move this bouncing ball along......

So I swapped from the 2419 to the OJ 945 on my T23 and I can tell a difference loaded out without pulling a boarder. It still isn't what I would like pulling a wakeboarder up to speed and it won't do it with full ballast even with everyone in the front. I'm beginning to think something is wrong with my motor because it'll get stuck between 13-14 mph but the RPM is between 4500-5000 when trying to get on plane and it just stays pegged up there till enough rear weight drains for it to get more MPH.

Your's sounds like it's not making enough RPM, could mine be making too much that it's not in the power band?

I remember reading elsewhere that Eric from OJ said these new boats ideally need a 16" diameter prop but there's very little clearance there for that. However if the prop shaft was longer by an inch or two, that would extend down where the prop mounts to easily fit a 16" diameter prop. I wonder what the feasibility of doing that is?

Glad you had a great trip. Stop telling other people about Powell please.

The T23 has similar issues with regard to forward weight. 200 lbs of lead does wonders. I might buy more. Now I know why people buy those 900s or whatever they are to put on top of the seat.



That sounds about right to me. I can't get to plane with the wedge down and full load either. The wedge makes a huge difference though. I can almost get up with all the people forward, all the bags full, and the wedge up.

Cool shot from Powell



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